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CLASS WAR INVITE DESMOND TUTU TO JOIN ‘NO APARTHEID IN LONDON’ PROTESTS

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Apartheid is apartheid, whether it is due to your social or economic class or the colour of your skin.

If the wealthy don’t wanna share an entrance, let ’em move out and some homeless folk can move in.

Ian Bone

a·part·heid (-pärtht, -ht)
n.
1. An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, involving political, legal, and economic discrimination against nonwhites.

2. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.

3. The condition of being separated from others; segregation

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So the dictionary definition of APARTHEID fits perfectly the segregation at NO.1 Commercial Street. Accordingly I’ve written to the DESMOND TUTU PEACE CENTRE in South Africa asking that Desmond Tutu be made aware of the situation and to join us if he is able -or otherwise send a message of support. I feel that if we get a message of support Desmond it will highlight the ‘separate development’ apartheid being imposed throughout the UK’s capitalcity and supported by both the prime minister and mayor of London. Any such message will be read out on Wednesday at Commercial Street.

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Written by Smiling Carcass

03/08/2014 at 8:12 PM

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  1. Or they could invite a Gazan family, also subject to apartheid for the last 50 years – that’s if they’ve not been murdered by Israeli fascists before the demo begins.

    ramon mercader's favourite axe

    04/08/2014 at 7:16 AM

  2. Not the topic is it, really, Ramon?

    You really wanna discuss Israel with a Jew?

    Smiling Carcass

    04/08/2014 at 6:24 PM

    • It is precisely the topic. It’s not about religion, it’s about power, segregation and ethnic cleansing. The UK USA NATO killing machine is the enemy of working class people. If you and Ian Bone (he censored my post on this matter incidentally) support them, then I am afraid, so are you.

      ramon mercader's favourite axe

      05/08/2014 at 7:47 PM

      • Well, you won’t get censored on here, Ramon- unless you say something outrageously abhorrent or offensive, and you posts so far show an intelligent turn of mind so I don’t think I need worry on that score.

        But I agree- it’s less about religion and more about power and money.

        Smiling Carcass

        05/08/2014 at 8:07 PM

  3. Is gender segregation a form of apartheid? You know separate seats in university and college lectures for men and women on religious grounds which was proposed earlier this year. Bone has censored all criticism of gender segregation. One wonders why. Perhaps it might be seen as a criticism of Islam. However, gender segregation and indeed segregation against gays, is not to be discussed by Class War.

    I await Ian Bone’s discussion with Archbishop Tutu. Word is they are going to pray together on behalf of London’s poor.

    Ramon I see has bought the Trot line – and the mainstream anti Jew line – on Gaza. Well, Hamas does go on about the extermination of Jews, so we best drop the charge of Israeli apartheid.. This conflict is too serious to be reduced to mindless slogans.

    Dr Llareggub

    04/08/2014 at 8:00 PM

    • As i said, Larry, it’s not about religion, or Trotskyists, or even Hamas – its about ordinary people. Many of the Palestinian families that are now being bombed out of their homes are those which were driven out of Jaffa by NATO bombs in 1948 to make way for the Israeli puppet government. It will be interesting to see which side of the international class war the ‘British Class War Party’ shares its allegiance, should it ever get off the ground.

      ramon mercader's favourite axe

      05/08/2014 at 9:11 PM

      • Ramon Sorry if I put you with the Trots. But I think the Trots are barking up the wrong tree supporting Hamas and the Jihadists. Usual story – the enemy of my enemies must be my friend. I think religion is in it here but its very complex, certainly not Jew v Muslim or Christian. And the stuff about Israel being a puppet state does not wash for me. Try this. I see a similarity with the 30 year War in Europe. But here we have ongoing conflict between Islamic states of one sort or another, with Israel and the west caught up in it. The current line up might include the Saudis, Egypt, and Israel as a proxy supporter, against Iran and against Turkey (backed by the EU). The US (Obama) backed the Muslim Bro in Egypt and with the EU back Turkey, and when the Brotherhood fell, the US and Turkey took it badly and it created a rift between Obama’s administration Israel and Egypt. Hamas’s rocket attacks brought predictable Israeli reaction but Hamas’s current beef is primarily with Egypt which closed off access to 94% of their tunnels losing revenue way over $400 million. They hope world sympathy over the IDF bombing will put pressure on Egypt to open the tunnels for humanitarian reasons. Hamas do not give a damn about loss of Palestinian lives. The more the better, as it gains sympathy. The Israeli’s know this and, despite the media stories have behaved with restraint. After all, they could have done a Dresden or Hiroshima and finished Hamas for good. This is where the left come into the picture. The left in Europe and the US can be persuaded to back Hamas, and buy into the story of Israeli aggression etc.All par for the course for the line up against the Saudis and their friends. Bottom line: the Israeli’s and the Palestinian people are fighting a proxy war. It is not a question of two sides, as the left and the mainstream media present it; it’s a complex pattern of shifting alliances within the Islamic world, with the West, and China and . Russia getting themselves involved for opportunist reasons. Add to the complexity is that whilst supporting Israel against Iran etc. the Saudis continue to play ball with their allies in the EU and US.,
        Sadly, the left took the simplest option:oppose bad Israel, backed by the bad capitalist West, against the downtrodden Palestinians, who were pushed off their land. Pure tripe, but its getting the left onto the streets.
        As for Class War, or any party/group which identifies with ordinary people – I suggest a very critical look at the line up (better than I have attempted here) and much skepticism towards the media presentation of two opposing sides . My take on Class War is that its leader wants to support Islam against the capitalist West, which is simplistic when Islamic nations have been involved in wars which each other for centuries, and generally follows what he gets from the leftist reporters in the BBC.

        Dr Llareggub

        06/08/2014 at 12:38 PM

  4. Although I’m not particularly comfortable with your description of the murder of 2000 working class people as ‘restraint’ (I’m guessing that you’re not a medical doctor) I take your point. As the UK backs the Israeli elite with arms deals to the tune of £8 billion per annum (no wonder David Cameron is sitting tight-lipped) and the USA provides $3 billion dollars worth of military ‘aid’ per annum, there is little doubt of their capacity to wipe Palestine off the face of the earth if it wants to. But it does put into perspective any hypothetical disagreements that may exist between Israel and its paymasters in Washington. Are you seriously questioning Israel’s position as Washington’s chief lieutenant in the Middle East?

    Thank you for the retraction in relation to ‘the trots’. However I think you may be a little too generous in your analysis of their policy and strategy in the UK. Their leaderships always hate working class people. They think that we are too stupid to fight our own battles. Both we and the Palestinian working class are expendable to them and their ilk. So your proposal in relation to Hamas is absolutely plausible. I am somewhat confused however by your description of the systematic oppression of Palestinian working class people as ‘pure tripe’, being as it is now, a matter of public record.

    In relation to Ian Bone, i think he probably has enough on his plate persuading a population that shows all the signs of Stockholm Syndrome, to vote for a violent cockney anarchist, without getting himself involved in contentious international affairs or cultural hegemony politics. Good luck to the guy is what I say…

    ramon mercader's favourite axe

    07/08/2014 at 6:33 PM

  5. Thanks Ramon. Good reply. Lots to discuss here. Not sure who is a violent cockney anarchist. Not Ian, who I recall as a sociology student in Swansea who came from rural Hampshire with a accent to match, but acquired the cockney accent later on, after a spell in the Free Wales Army as a Welshman – Ieuan ap Asgwrn was his borrowed named as a nationalist. I think his heart is in the right place and I would like to see Class War do well, but a highly centralized anarchist organization is doomed to failure.

    My point on the Middle East is worth stressing. People in the UK and USA see the conflicts there as a product of western involvement. I am suggesting it is worth seeing from an Islamic standpoint, where powers within that bloc are engaged in a long running struggle.

    Worth noting is the selectivity of the left – not one left outlet has condemned the genocide of ISIS and Boko Haram, and if pushed the response is ‘Yes it is wrong BUT..’..which is followed by a sanitizing explanation with references to the crimes of Blair et al. Or with the Guardian, who blamed Boko Haram’s violence on climate change for which we in the west are guilty, or the BBC which sanitizes ISIS with reference to disenfranchisement of the Sunnis. But not one left group have got off their backsides to protest against the slaughter they are carrying out.

    I am not a doctor of medicine, (why is this relevant?) but have made major contributions to medical science, and currently supervising work in the developing world on the major scandal of exploiting indigenous people in bioprospecting. Just as I did over the exploitation of HIV infected pregnant women in West Africa. But anarchists are not interested. Cheers.

    Dr Llareggub

    09/08/2014 at 11:27 AM


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